Вверх по лимитам!

[0126354 645]

попробуй начинать сессию с мыслью что ты уже залил 4 би. Может сработает.

[aramir 188]

все, как бы мягко выразиться, плохо. я не бью даже нл5. сегодня -3би. нужен взгляд со стороны.очень хочется знать свои статы, винрейт, что я делаю не так, в связи с чем, небольшая просьба - кто может разобрать мою базу рук? плачу $20. если кому интересно, пожалуйста в личку.

[Count_NN 1432]

ВО-первых, чтобы понять, бьешь ты лимит или нет, надо отыграть, минимум 50к рук.Мой тебе совет. Не жадничай. Найми тренера, ну хотя бы 2-3 занятия. Окупится с лихвой. На Форуме Джипси куча объявлений тренеров. Есть и не очень дорогие. Как раз для микролимитов. Лимиты вплоть до нл100 бьются АБЦ-покером, как бы даже не до НЛ200(Саша, Федя, Даник. я прав?)Если не бьешь этот лимит, значит конкретно косячишь-)

Изменено 8 ноября, 2013 пользователем Count_NN

[Apple.4iH 512]

Чекни личку

[aramir 188]

ема, сегодня какой-то день кулеровАА<ККАА<99 - фиш заколол 4-бетКК<ААКК<ААКК<ААКК<АQQQ<KKQQ<KKи это все на 2000 рук, с точки зрения статистики это как?

[ASM1991 300]

Даунстрик

[aramir 188]

Даунстрик

за что меня так? я ведь только начал

[aramir 188]

Вчера 3к рук в 0, че в натуре стрикует?

1.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20712281

sonji90 (MP): $5.02 (100.4 bb)

rockbasser (CO): $2.40 (48 bb)

dinica2013 (BTN): $1.81 (36.2 bb)

Durko Bukowski (SB): $6.01 (120.2 bb)

SNWL1 (BB): $3.90 (78 bb)

Hero (UTG): $15.13 (302.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with

Hero raises to $0.15, sonji90 folds, rockbasser raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SNWL1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, rockbasser raises to $2.40 and is all-in, SNWL1 calls $2.10, Hero raises to $15.13, SNWL1 calls $1.50 and is all-in

Flop: ($10.22) (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Turn: ($10.22) (3 players, 2 are all-in)

River: ($10.22) (3 players, 2 are all-in)

[spoil]Results: $10.22 pot ($0.51 rake)

Final Board: 4:spade: J:club: K:club: 8:heart: 5:diamond:

rockbasser showed and lost (-$2.40 net)

SNWL1 showed and won $9.71 ($5.81 net)

Hero showed and won $0.00 (-$3.90 net)

[/spoil][/hand_history][replayer=20712281][/replayer][/converted_hand]

2.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20717371

Omayer (SB): $6.18 (123.6 bb)

Lehansen (BB): $2.78 (55.6 bb)

xReshx (UTG): $8.36 (167.2 bb)

wallywaller1 (MP): $8.47 (169.4 bb)

Hero (CO): $6.03 (120.6 bb)

MissTaken75 (BTN): $6.52 (130.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, MissTaken75 raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, MissTaken75 raises to $6.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.43

Flop: ($12.13) (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Turn: ($12.13) (2 players, 1 is all-in)

River: ($12.13) (2 players, 1 is all-in)

[spoil]Results: $12.13 pot ($0.60 rake)

Final Board: Q:heart: K:club: 7:spade: 3:club: T:spade:

Hero showed A:spade: A:heart: and lost (-$6.03 net)

MissTaken75 showed and won $11.53 ($5.50 net)

[/spoil][/hand_history][replayer=20717371][/replayer][/converted_hand]

3.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20719411

slamok88 (CO): $2.30 (46 bb)

Hero (BTN): $5.20 (104 bb)

Stefkan (SB): $5.70 (114 bb)

MaLiBooh (BB): $7.77 (155.4 bb)

PinoDace (UTG): $11.51 (230.2 bb)

Zicepig (MP): $9.14 (182.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with

2 folds, slamok88 raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, Stefkan raises to $1.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.20, Stefkan calls $3.60

Flop: ($10.60) (2 players)

Turn: ($10.60) (2 players)

River: ($10.60) (2 players)

[spoil]Results: $10.60 pot ($0.53 rake)

Final Board: 7:club: 4:heart: 6:club: 9:club: 4:club:

Hero showed A:spade: A:heart: and lost (-$5.20 net)

Stefkan showed and won $10.07 ($4.87 net)

[/spoil][/hand_history][replayer=20719411][/replayer][/converted_hand]

4.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20726061

Sharkey231 (MP): $4.14 (82.8 bb)

Yaksmen (CO): $2.90 (58 bb)

axjibenai1 (BTN): $5.20 (104 bb)

Hero (SB): $5.03 (100.6 bb)

agonyship (BB): $5 (100 bb)

lekaruga (UTG): $5.02 (100.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

3 folds, axjibenai1 raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, agonyship folds, axjibenai1 raises to $1.05, Hero raises to $5.03, axjibenai1 calls $3.98

Flop: ($10.11) (2 players)

Turn: ($10.11) (2 players)

River: ($10.11) (2 players)

[spoil]Results: $10.11 pot ($0.50 rake)

Final Board: 9:spade: T:spade: K:club: J:heart: 6:club:

axjibenai1 showed and won $9.61 ($4.58 net)

Hero showed A:heart: A:diamond: and lost (-$5.03 net)

[/spoil][/hand_history][replayer=20726061][/replayer][/converted_hand]

5. и снова им доезжает

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20737861

Hero (CO): $13.30 (266 bb)

WTSifu (BTN): $3.56 (71.2 bb)

Pan Sytuacji 18 (SB): $3.94 (78.8 bb)

vollgar (BB): $7.27 (145.4 bb)

urich36 (UTG): $5.55 (111 bb)

19700505 (MP): $5.46 (109.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

urich36 raises to $0.17, 19700505 folds, Hero calls $0.17, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.41) (2 players)

urich36 bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.45, urich36 raises to $5.38 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.93

Turn: ($11.17) (2 players, 1 is all-in)

River: ($11.17) (2 players, 1 is all-in)

[spoil]Results: $11.17 pot ($0.55 rake)

Final Board: Q:club: A:heart: 8:spade: A:spade: 6:diamond:

Hero showed 8:diamond: 8:club: and lost (-$5.55 net)

urich36 showed and won $10.62 ($5.07 net)

[/spoil][/hand_history][replayer=20737861][/replayer][/converted_hand]

Что в итоге приводит к такому(((

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20735841

patxer (BB): $5.21 (104.2 bb)

blufer777 (UTG): $5.18 (103.6 bb)

fill_ller (MP): $4 (80 bb)

Gunkin1987 (CO): $1.67 (33.4 bb)

Hero (BTN): $8.55 (171 bb)

playgamer888 (SB): $15.29 (305.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with

blufer777 calls $0.05, fill_ller raises to $0.15, Gunkin1987 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds, blufer777 calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.52) (3 players)

blufer777 bets $0.30, fill_ller folds, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.12) (2 players)

blufer777 bets $0.50, Hero folds

[spoil]Results: $1.12 pot ($0.05 rake)

Final Board: 2:club: J:club: 9:spade: 6:club:

blufer777 mucked and won $1.07 ($0.62 net)

Hero mucked A:spade: A:heart: and lost (-$0.45 net)

[/spoil][/hand_history][replayer=20735841][/replayer][/converted_hand]

А тут хз

А)

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

fvbujfvbuj (UTG): $6.22 (124.4 bb)

ai11zx (MP): $2 (40 bb)

Schlafaus (CO): $7.79 (155.8 bb)

Megakaban (BTN): $1.95 (39 bb)

Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)

IShallNotPass (BB): $2.79 (55.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

fvbujfvbuj raises to $0.20, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, IShallNotPass folds, fvbujfvbuj raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.45) 3:heart: (2 players)

Hero checks, fvbujfvbuj bets $0.70, Hero?

[/hand_history][replayer=20722461][/replayer][/converted_hand]

B)

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

malapipica (SB): $8.24 (164.8 bb)

realsomebody (BB): $5.07 (101.4 bb)

losenok666 (UTG): $5 (100 bb)

Denis170678 (MP): $1.83 (36.6 bb)

Hero (CO): $5.05 (101 bb)

p3run (BTN): $5.48 (109.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, realsomebody calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) (2 players)

realsomebody checks, Hero bets $0.25, realsomebody raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.55

Turn: ($1.92) K:club: (2 players)

realsomebody bets $1.40, Hero?

[/hand_history][replayer=20723101][/replayer][/converted_hand]

C)

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

IShallNotPass (BTN): $3.02 (60.4 bb)

Vanillebaer (SB): $17.35 (347 bb)

D3M14N (BB): $2.07 (41.4 bb)

patxer (UTG): $6.82 (136.4 bb)

donkinfish (MP): $9.51 (190.2 bb)

Hero (CO): $8.50 (170 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, IShallNotPass calls $0.15, Vanillebaer calls $0.13, D3M14N folds

Flop: ($0.50) (3 players)

Vanillebaer checks, Hero checks, IShallNotPass bets $0.30, Vanillebaer calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.40) (3 players)

Vanillebaer checks, Hero checks, IShallNotPass bets $1.40, Vanillebaer folds, Hero?

[/hand_history][replayer=20715111][/replayer][/converted_hand]

D)

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (CO): $5.23 (104.6 bb)

Shlanh (BTN): $3.90 (78 bb)

Panauro (SB): $4.96 (99.2 bb)

bmw994 (BB): $5 (100 bb)

lunatik911 (UTG): $2.50 (50 bb)

slamok88 (MP): $2.05 (41 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, Shlanh folds, Panauro calls $0.13, bmw994 calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) (3 players)

Panauro bets $0.45, bmw994 folds, Hero calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.35) (2 players)

Panauro bets $1.35, Hero calls $1.35

River: ($4.05) (2 players)

Panauro bets $3.01 and is all-in, Hero?

[/hand_history][replayer=20718251][/replayer][/converted_hand]

E) как надо было разыграть?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

iSergio (BB): $4.44 (88.8 bb)

Slova10 (UTG): $21.43 (428.6 bb)

Talibaneis (MP): $5.53 (110.6 bb)

PASTACHIPS (CO): $3.09 (61.8 bb)

uk197 (BTN): $3.55 (71 bb)

Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

Slova10 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.13, iSergio calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) (3 players)

Hero checks, iSergio checks, Slova10 bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, iSergio folds

Turn: ($1.35) (2 players)

Hero bets $0.67, Slova10 calls $0.67

River: ($2.69) (2 players)

Hero bets $1.34, Slova10 raises to $6.71, Hero folds

[spoil]Results: $5.37 pot ($0.26 rake)

Final Board: T:spade: J:club: Q:club: 2:diamond: 3:diamond:

Slova10 mucked and won $5.11 ($2.50 net)

Hero mucked A:heart: 9:heart: and lost (-$2.61 net)

[/spoil][/hand_history][replayer=20717831][/replayer][/converted_hand]

[aramir 188]

кст, биг бонус отыграл

[Apple.4iH 512]

А) Утг всегда открывается рейзами 4бб? Если да то думаю не стоит его трибетить без веских оснований. Если нет, то тем болееB) Я бы выставлялся по-флопуC) Почему чек? Полно рук с которых можно добиратьE) Разыграть нужно было фолдом префлоп

[arthurchik 103]

е) флоп чек/колл играем, а на бланковом терне первым ставим? не понятно как-то. Нас коллируют, что выбиваем на ривере тогда своей ставкой?

[Apple.4iH 512]

Говорю же фолд префлоп, на рейз из утг не стоит колить на А9sКак сыграно - чек-фолд терн

[aramir 188]

смотрю сейчас на раздачи и понимаю, что все элементарно, видимо это на фоне усталости-кулеров-тильта

[aramir 188]

С) ривер бланк, у оппа А8sD) KQ

[Apple.4iH 512]

D трудно комментить не зная оппа. Против неизвестного - фолд ривер

Изменено 15 ноября, 2013 пользователем Apple.4iH

[aramir 188]

попробовал катнуть нл10. по ощущениям, игра тайтовее. но к сожалению игра не пошла. всего отыграл ~350 рук, отдал бай-ин и сразу же съе***ся в ужасе ушел. в ближайшее время туда ни ногой.

неск. раздач:

1.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

SB ($10.91)

BB ($5.10)

Hero (UTG) ($10.05)

MP ($31.41)

CO ($8.66)

Button ($15.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K

Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) Q, 6, 10(2 players)

BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45) 9(2 players)

BB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

River: ($3.05) K(2 players)

BB bets $1.60, Hero?

2.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($7.04)

MP ($10.70)

Hero (CO) ($10.05)

Button ($11.44)

SB ($12.18)

BB ($8.06)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 6

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 7, A, 6(2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $0.42, BB raises to $0.90, Hero?

3.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (MP) ($10)

CO ($10)

Button ($14.39)

SB ($11.24)

BB ($3.60)

UTG ($12.34)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, A

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) A, 3, 5(2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.49) 9(2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $0.98, BB raises to $2.88 (All-In), Hero?

просматривал сессию, и охренел. так вот куда уходят мои денежки

целых 4,5ВВ минус. это грабеж средь бела дня

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

CO ($16.44)

Hero (Button) ($12.35)

SB ($10.05)

BB ($11.75)

UTG ($4.58)

MP ($22.78)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.20) 6, 2, K(2 players)

SB bets $1.35, Hero calls $1.35

Turn: ($4.90) 5(2 players)

SB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

River: ($9.10) A(2 players)

SB bets $5.55 (All-In), Hero calls $5.55

Total pot: $20.20 | Rake: $1.01

Results below:

Hero had A, K (two pair, Aces and Kings).

SB had A, K (two pair, Aces and Kings).

Outcome: Hero won $9.59, SB won $9.60

[aramir 188]

посчитал сколько я теряю на блинах. вышло -20ББ/100. но я понятия не имею, какое это отклонение от нормы. чувствую, что много. я дарю блайнды?хотелось бы узнать мнение сведущих в этом.

[ASM1991 300]

хз, какая дистанция?

[Nau 2515]

-20 бб это с блайндов??? Ну ты крут. Я тебе реально говорю, у регов считается неплохим около 40-50 минус на 100 рук. Т.е. если ты защищаешь блины и играешь в такой минус, это плюсовее, если бы ты скидывал все блины, потому что там получается -100бб/100рук. так что это апстрик на блинах

[Nau 2515]

ЗЫ, у меня в МТТ -36бб, но я защищаю очень тайово и очень агрессивно. Я очень много рестилю 3бет/пушами с блинов, потому что в МТТ много стилят, в поздних стадиях вообще на 80% диапазоне.